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Where are they now?

Down to a (shrinking) handful...

First - Tenders of the Ghost Fleet...

Gilmore, Orion, Proteus all scrapped; Hunley - while still technically afloat - is way-past being a "ship".

We have no idea why it's taking so long to scrap her out - we're trying to find out - but considering they started on her before ESCO started on Proteus - and Proteus was completed more than a year ago - we can't help but wonder if there is some "issue"... What ever the reason - she's still (as of February 15, 2010) afloat.

Here is a picture from that date:

Admittedly, hard to still call her a "ship" - as there are a few "vital" bits missing - but definitely afloat!

Thanks to Chris Vallery for this photo!

Word has it that clearance has now been given to start scrapping Canopus at Teeside...

With the "settlement" of the Federal Law Suits over the ships stored at Suisun - those ships are going to be scrapped as fast as possible. I think any chance Sperry (and / or Nereus) had of becoming a donation (museum) ship is now nil. Expect them to be stablized" and moved to scappers ASAP. Unfortunately - Holland is among them - and most likely to suffer the same fate - on the same fast track.

That leaves the ships at Naval Inactive ships Facility, Portsmouth... Lake, Spear and McKee:

As noted on the main page - the contract has just been signed (July 9th, 2010) for ESCO Marine to scrap USS L. Y. Spear (AS 36).

Thanks for the "Heads Up" on this from former Spear Crewmember Patty (Schneider) Kelso. Acording to her sources - Spear is to be towed from Portsmouth to Brownsville, Texas sometime in the the next two weeks (barring some un-foreseen issue). We'd been hearing rumors about this for a few weeks - but this is the first confirmed report (and it's solid!).

So what about Lake and McKee? They are still at Portsmouth, but we now have confirmation the Navy intends to change that and likely sooner than later. In the "Report to Congress on Annual Long-Range Plan for Construction of Naval Vessels for FY 2011" prepared by the Director, Warfare Integration, Office of the Chief of Naval Operations - there is a section which discusses ships to be deactivated and the planned disposition of those ships as well as ships already inactivated and in storage. In that section, the report notes that USS Simon Lake (AS 33) and USS McKee (AS 41) have been declared excess by the Navy - and due to costs, environmental concerns, etc. - the preferred disposal method for both ships is to contract for their dismantling and recycling. While this plan is part of the the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP) which covers (in the short term) the years 2011 - 2020; the report also states "The Navy recognizes that environmental and safety risks increase as inactive ships deteriorate and their disposal is delayed. The longer retired ships sit in the inactive ship inventory, the higher the environmental risks and disposal costs." In view of this - and considering what they just went through in legal problems with the Suisun site - we anticipate the Navy will scrap Lake and McKee ASAP.


This is the current list of the last known location of all "afloat" Submarine Tenders.

This Update: July, 2010

First - the active fleet - U.S. Navy: None.

Emory S. Land and Frank Cable are no longer US Navy operated ships -

As of February 1st, 2010 - there are no longer ANY U.S. Navy operated Submarine Tenders.

THE LAST US NAVY OPERATED SUBMARINE TENDER
 USS FRANK CABLE 
WAS TRANSFERED TO MSC FEBRUARY 1st, 2010.

There has been little evidence of the hand over so far - Cable continues to operate at Guam as it has for the last several years. However - things are about to change - as the Department of Defense awarded a contract on March 11, 2010 to Guam Industrial Services, Inc., dba Guam Shipyard, Santa Rita, Guam. The $10,404,769 firm-fixed-price contract calls for the civilian modifications of the Military Sealift Command (MSC) submarine tender USS Frank Cable. The ship requires maintenance and repair, as well as modifications including the installation of equipment and systems for operation by MSC civil service mariners in keeping with U.S. merchant marine standards. The modifications are to better equip the vessel for MSC’s reduced manning profile. 

Note the statement that the ship's current accommodations are OK for U.S. sailors, but not up to the standards of the U. S. Merchant Marines?  Yet "the ship" will be operated by MSC Merchant Marines (in their "standards quarters, etc.") while the technical work of fixing the Navy's highly technical and complex military equipment will be done by U.S. Navy Sailors in their (to MSC standards) sub-standard quarters, etc. [Opinion: I'm sure that's a formulae for harmonious relations and cooperation. Right!]

This will leave NO active fully US Navy manned Submarine Tender left - anywhere in the world. Both tenders - USS EMORY S. LAND and USS FRANK CABLE will be operated by MSC (Military Sealift Command) - using what the Navy calls a "hybrid crew" of CIVMAR (Civilian Merchant Marines) and Navy technicians under the command of a Navy Captain.

I guess it was inevitable. We've seen it coming - it became obvious a few years ago - the Navy was hell-bent on getting rid of all Auxiliaries. Think I'm nuts? Over reacting? Try these facts on for size:

At the end of WWII - the US Navy had 1267 auxiliary ships active.

By 1950 that number was reduced to 218 - a level which was maintained (plus or minus a dozen ships) through 1968.

The Navy notes "The dramatic fall in ship numbers after 1968-1969 is due to the decision to limit the use of American military force in Vietnam and the decommissioning of many WWII-era ships." This reduction was across the board.

By 1978 the number of auxiliaries had fallen to 113 - a level which was maintained (plus or minus a dozen ships) through 1993.

Between 1994 and 1997 the number of auxiliaries was cut in half - to 52 - which level was maintained from 1998 - 2004.

2005 saw only 45 auxiliaries in service - a level which has been maintained since.

However something should be noted here: Many of the remaining auxiliaries - though shown as "Navy ships" in the NVR - are in fact in the possession of - and operated by others. For instance - several Oceanic research vessels and similar are in the custody of - and operated by universities (such as the University of Hawaii). While such ships are undoubtedly providing good service and value to the Navy - they aren't in direct support of Naval operations. And of course USS Pueblo AGER-2 is still a commissioned auxiliary. Think the North Koreans would let us take her out for some research? (Don't get me started on that subject!!!!). Point being - the "fleet" of traditional service (repair) auxiliaries has been slowly but thoroughly dismantled.

When I started TenderTale - there were still a large number of active support auxiliaries - including 5 submarine tenders - though HOLLAND was decommissioned that same year - leaving 4 Submarine Tenders. McKee and Lake both decommissioned before the end of 1999 - and sitting doing nothing in Portsmouth (why in the world they don't send one or both to relieve some of the pressure off New London is beyond me).

It seems now - that the final chapter in the history of Submarine Tenders in the United States Navy has been written. With both Land and Cable turned over to MSC - our interest - and coverage of them - ends.


And what about the "inactive fleet"? 

Left to right - USS McKee (AS41); USS Simon Lake (AS33); and USS L.Y. Spear (AS36).
Picture courtesy of Pat Banyas. (Pat served aboard both Holland and Spear; Pat's wife served aboard Spear and Hunley).

MARAD: After years of inaction by the Navy and MARAD; protests and lawsuits by environmentalist, an agreement was reached March 30th, 2010 that will result in the elimination of "The Ghost Fleet" from Suisun Bay. 20 of the worst ships will be cleaned and made ready for recycling by the end of 2012- the rest by 2017. The upshot is that the three remaining sub tenders at Suisun will all be scrapped (or otherwise disposed of) within seven years - if not sooner.

All Tenders held by MARAD at James River recently (USS Howard W. Gilmore (AS 16); USS Orion (AS 18) and USS Hunley (AS-31)) have been scrapped (though Hunley's scrapping is still underway as noted above.


The location date given is the last time the location was "confirmed":
the Status is the most recent as "published" - which publication and date.
MANDRF: Maritime Administration, National Defense Reserve Fleet
NIF: Naval Inactive Fleet, NAVSEA Command facility
USS Sperry (AS-12) MANDRF Suisun 12/2009 - Status: Disposal (as per lawsuit settlement)

USS Nereus (AS-17) MANDRF Suisun 4/16 Status: Disposal (MARAD report 3/11/2010 - last report available)

USS Holland (AS-32) MANDRF Suisun 4/16 Status: Disposal. (MARAD report 3/11/2010 - last report available)

USS Simon Lake (AS-33) Still at NIF St. J's Portsmouth. As noted scrapping expected ASAP

USS Canopus (AS-34) Able Shipbreakers, Teesside, UK 8/06
Status: Word (as yet only one source) has it that Hartlepool council have just given permission for it to be broken up along with 3 other US vessels. We've requested an info update - we'll post what - if anything - we hear.

USS L.Y. Spear (AS-36) While "at the moment" at NIF St. J's Portsmouth; her scrapping contract has been signed - and she'll be towed within a couple weeks.

USS McKee (AS-41) Still at NIF St. J's Portsmouth. Same status as Lake.

MSC (no longer Navy - but intact / afloat) 2
In "harm's way" - scrap contracted or underway3
Listed for disposal - but not committed5
Intact 10

In "harm's way": Canopus is already at Teeside to be scrapped. We've requested an "update" on progress, so far not answered. We'll post when we hear. As noted above - we had been told that Hunley's scrapping was completed. Photo evidence shows that not to be the case. L. Y. Spear is contracted to ESCO Marine for scrapping - to commence within weeks.

The five remaining - USS Sperry (AS 12); USS Nereus (AS 17); USS Holland (AS 32); USS Simon Lake (AS 33); and USS McKee (AS 41) all are to be scrapped - contracts to be awarded soon for Lake and McKee (they are ready to move); and contracts for Sperry, Nereus and Holland will be first let to "stabilize and secure" - then to tow and scrap once they can be moved without contaminating as they go.


News - TenderTale - This Site

It's likely very obvious that I haven't been able to devote as much time to TenderTale as I'd like. I'm not going to make excuses - there are just so many hours in a day - and sometimes we have to do some things - when we'd really much rather doing something else. Several projects remain unfinished - and there still a lot of other clean-up tidy-up things that just go begging. I'd hoped for some help - but so far other than some updates, etc. (for which I am VERY grateful!) - no one has stepped up. So I'll continue to do what I can - when I can.

The Mid Watch

As Ships Sleep

The photos for this section have been re-scanned and presented at a much larger scale. With the increase in bandwidth available to most people - download times are not the problem they used to be - so - the quality and size of the pictures on TenderTale will all eventually be brought to the same level as these.

Also - remember - these are old pictures - MANY ships are being removed very quickly - and information is painfully difficult to get out of anyone involved (the courts may have something to do with that - as part of the recent settlement of several law suits over these ships). Suisun looks very different today - and will likely be even more deserted tomorrow (or the next day).

If you'd rather remember your ship in her better days - fresh paint - shiny brass - you might want to bypass this section - as they say - sometimes the truth hurts - and unfortunately the truth is - the rest of the world has forgotten these ships - save for a few who scavenge and plunder. The following ain't pretty!
If you'd like to skip past to the Reunion Listings - click here-> Go to Reunions

If - on the other hand - you recognize that times, people, places - and yes our old ships age and pass on- and you'd still like to see her one last time - at least she's still afloat and not (yet) a Toyota hood or Schlitz beer can... Scroll on down.

The Reserve Fleet, Suisun Bay, Benecia, California is the final holding place for ships taken out of service and held pending final (government wise) disposition. A few ships escape to other uses - but not many -- most ship are sold for recycling (how's that for a polite euphemism for cutting torch) - .

In the mean time- here they stay - bleaching in the California sun and riding the gentle tide of the backwaters of the San Francisco Bay whose salt water rusts away at their bottoms. One more chance to bail out -> Goto Reunions

Sometime back in some of my ramblings here on TenderTale - I made the "request" that someone with an airplane and a camera close to Suisun and/or Ft. Eustis -- go take some pictures. Well - Chris Lund has done just that.

NOTICE -- PLEASE READ! THIS IS SERIOUS...

Back in August 2001 - Chris just jumped in his plane - and buzzed the reserve fleet at Suisun and clicked away with his camera. It made the people at the reserve a little nervous - but once they found out who / what / why (and that Chris wasn't some nut trying to bomb / steal /who knows what - a ship... everything was cool. Then 9/11. Needless to say - security at these facilities is tighter now-- If you're thinking about taking some aerial photos - fine - BUT DO IT RIGHT!!!! Contact the appropriate authorities and tell them what you'd like to do and get permission. I have contact info here - if you need name / numbers, etc. - email me and I'll send it in a reply. I talked to the nice folks at Suisun just today - and they noted just how different things are now - and buzzing the fleet there will garner you a buzz by some serious folks from Travis - which are seconds (literally) away --- as fighters are STILL aloft patrolling the area. Keep in mind - Langly is equally close to Ft. Eustis - so unless you're ready to pit your puddle hopper against an F15 or better... THINK IT THROUGH - and do it right!!!!  Also note - USS Proteus is no longer at Suisun (see above).
Thanks to Chris Lund - who took my suggestion and overflew the Reserve Fleet at Suisun - and got some great aerial pictures. Without further ado...
Nereus and Proteus
Three of several "groups". Eighth ship from the left is NEREUS (AS-17)
second from right is PROTEUS (IX-518 former AS-19).
Keep in mind - Proteus is no longer there - she was scrapped Jan/Feb. 2008.
 
Nereus and Proteus
Back side of that front row - again eighth from right is NEREUS' stern.
 
Another group - HOLLAND (AS-32) is first ship on the right.
 
Ship in the middle is SPERRY (AS-12)
 
Again - Sperry in the middle (sixth from the left - We warned you some of these were tough!)
 
PROTEUS. Sorta like a recruit coming out of the
barber shop that first day... very little dignity left (and she's completely gone now).
 
PROTEUS. It too has that FULTON class bow line -
but with all that white... hard to see.
 
Another picture of the back of the row
NEREUS (sixth from the right) and PROTEUS (second from left) are on-- it was partly cloudy -
so Chris was having to take shots around the cloud's shadows...
 
An enlargement of the NEREUS and PROTEUS -
pretty grainy - but at least you can see some details here.
 
Approaching HOLLAND
 
Passing HOLLAND
 
Coming in for a really close look...
 
What Airplane??? (Who me? Buzzing the reserve fleet?)
 
Right on top of HOLLAND
 
Time to say goodbye... and head for home.
 
Again - our great thanks to Chris Lund for sharing these great photos with us - (sorry but a little legal business- All these photos are the property of and copyright © 2001 Chris Lund - all rights reserved. Use on TenderTale by written permission by Chris Lund). And I don't mean to beat it to death - but again - if you are thinking about flying over any reservation, etc. and taking pictures - GET PERMISSION from the appropriate authorities!

Reunion Listings

Email Issues

Ever since AT&T "took over" Bellsouth and converted the mail to "Yahoo mail" - we've been having email issues - some emails being severely delayed - some never arriving at all. If you sent a reunion listing to TenderTale - and it wasn't posted - please send it again - as most likely we never got it. We think the problem has been found and fixed - as mail audits over the past few days show no problem...

REUNION of USS CANOPUS AS 9 and AS 34

Sept. 9 to 12, 2010
Sheraton Airport Hotel
Charleston , SC

Crewmembers that served on the AS-34 and AS-9,
and supporting Marine detachments,
SUBRONs, ARDMs, ASRs are invited to our reunion on .  

Details: Richard Retin
2245 Wintercreek Way SE
Salem , OR 97306

(503) 689-1712,


e-mail: usscanopus@mail.com or website: www.usscanopus.org


REUNION of USS FULTON AS 11

Is scheduled for September 2010 at Newport Rhode Island

Richard Hartman
400 Bellevue Ave #305
Newport, RI 02840-6958
Future info available from:

http://www.ussfulton.org


REUNION of USS SPERRY AS 12

Was held September 23rd through September 29th, 2009

Radisson Hotel - Greenbay, WI

more info: http://usssperryas12.org


REUNION of USS GRIFFIN AS 13

Was held September 20-23, 2007
at the Ramada Inn
St. Joseph, Mo. 64506

For additional information contact:
Garland and Mary Roach
Rt. 1 Box 81
Grant City, MO., 64456

gandmroach@grantcity.net


REUNION of USS PELIAS AS 14

All crew - including her submarine sailors
was held May 8 thru 10, 2006
San Diego, CA
Bayside Holiday Inn on Harbor Drive
Banquet & Memorial: May 10 at 6:00 PM

For additional information contact:

Ray Lorenz
355 Lorenz Spur Drive
Hamilton, MT 59840
Tel: (406) 961-4481
Cell: (406) 360-1469
E Mail: lorenzspur@cybernet1.com


REUNION of USS BUSHNELL AS-15

Was held

June 24-27, 2010

Mike Wentzel
P.O.Box 133
Oley Pa. 19547
1-610-987-6641
wenfab@1usa.com
or
Ben Supowitz
13675 Philmont Avenue-#3
Philadelphia Pa. 19116
215 676 3585
benel24@comcast.net

More Info: as15-burninbush.com


REUNION of USS GILMORE AS 16

Was held
Friday, April 29th 2010 through Monday, May 3rd 2010.

Philadelphia, PA

Contact: 

Bob Munjas
440 West 40th St.
Shadyside, Ohio 43947
740-676-5582

moonmunj3@aol.com


REUNION of USS ORION AS 18

Was held Tuesday, October 13th through Saturday, October 17th 2009

For more information contact orionvets@comcast.net


REUNION of USS PROTEUS AS 19

Will be held

September 9th - 12th, 2010
at The Lake Wright Hotel
6280 Northampton Blvd.
Norfolk, Va

(Near Norfolk Intl. Airport)

Reunion Assoc. info contact:

Paul has requested that reunion registrations be to him by August 6, 2010
So plans and accomodations can be arranged accordingly.

Mr. Paul Castle  619-237-1314

Email Lt. Paul Castle, USN(Ret):paul1@ix.netcom.com


REUNION of USS EURYALE AS 22

Reunions have been discontinued for USS Euryale AS 22


More info here: http://www.usseuryale.com


USS ANTHEDON AS 24

The participants of the USS ANTHEDON AS 24 reunion
held in Florida October 2007
have voted to suspend any further formal reunions.

The declining number of crew members able to attend reunions was cited as the primary reason.
However, if any crew members decide to get together at any time,
they are encouraged to contact others and invite them to attend an informal reunion.

Contact for USS Anthedon can be made through:

Email: George Treusch


REUNION of USS HUNLEY AS 31

For more information -

Hunley's web page


4th REUNION of USS HOLLAND AS 32

For more information - contact:

Jose A. Garcia,
1313 East Plum Street
Laredo,Tx.78040-2220.

E-Mail:jgarcia7469@stx.rr.com

Phone: 956.791.2039 or 956.645.3539

-Or-

Check out the Holland's new Website:

www.ussholland.org


REUNION of USS SIMON LAKE AS 33

The 2009 Simon Lake Reunion
was held from 27 September to 1 October 2009.

For more info go to: www.simonlake.org


REUNION of USS CANOPUS AS 9 and AS 34

Sept. 9 to 12, 2010
Sheraton Airport Hotel
Charleston , SC

Crewmembers that served on the AS-34 and AS-9,
and supporting Marine detachments,
SUBRONs, ARDMs, ASRs are invited to our reunion on .  

Details: Richard Retin
2245 Wintercreek Way SE
Salem , OR 97306

(503) 689-1712,


e-mail: usscanopus@mail.com or website: www.usscanopus.org


REUNION of USS L. Y. SPEAR AS 36

USS L. Y. Spear's 4th Reunion
will be held:

October 14-17, 2010
At the Hilton Airport Norfolk in Norfolk, VA. 

Reunion Info contact: Leon Jessie.  2010reunion@usslyspear.org

More Info:
Spears website: www.usslyspear.org


REUNION of USS Emory S. Land AS 39

Info:
email: Robert Baker

REUNION of USS McKee AS 41

is in the "Kicking it around" stage.
Anyone interested can get more info:
USS McKee

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